New Rule on Birthing?

[CaℳI]

I really hate sounding like a bitch....I REALLY do. but I've been waiting three and a half weeks for people to birth their kits. I understand no muse, I understand you're busy....but seriously? I don't even remember what clan, who the parents are, or the personalities I made up in the apps....THREE WEEKS AGO.

I truly think everyone would benefit, besides for the few slow people who might get pissed, from a rule saying once you get your litter roll, you must birth your kits with in 14 days, or you lose all of the kits from that litter, and it still counts towards your cats litter cap. I don't think the rule is that harsh. And I think it would get some people to birth kits before....a MONTH later. Not trying to sound mean. It's just really irritating. I don't want to stop adopting people's kits. but I would like to actually play the kits I adopt. 

EDIT: This is another idea if people don't like the first one. What if people gave themselves a time limit? Like they post on their adoption "I will be birthing these kits in 20-30 days" So people like me....who would rather not adopt kits from people with such lengthy births, know NOT to adopt those kits. Some people might say it's "Not fair" to have deadlines. but it's also not fair to have people waiting on you to birth YOUR kits that YOU wanted. Ya know? Not trying to be mean, just trying to think of a way to make this more fair. I would LOVE a note at least that is required so I know which litters I might want to adopt from, and which ones I don't want to. C:

[Sand]

Well the thing is, is that people don't make the kits apps and I try waiting until all the apps are complete but sometimes I don't and end up regretting it because the past few times I made the birth thread a few of the people who didn't make the kits never did and their accounts were deleted then I would have to readopt out that kit. I've even pmed some of these people asking them to make the bio so that the thread could move faster. I know one of my birthing threads went for a month and now we have to readopt out one of the kits. I try doing birthing threads in a decent amount of time but it hasn't even been two weeks for me yet since I put up the adoption pages for my kits.

[CaℳI]

Sand! I knew I should have posted a note saying I wasn't talking about you. It is true out of the six kits I'm waiting on births for, yours are two of them. but I did take into account that it hasn't even been two weeks since I adopted yours. I'm not at all talking about you. I literally adopted a kit the day I joined....almost a month ago now, and the person hasn't birthed the kits. ;__; So yes, I know typically you are one of the people I'm waiting on, but I'm not really counting that cause I know how fast you reply and I have complete faith that you will birth your kits in a reasonable amount of time. I hope you understand. I do agree that people making the kit apps might also be a problem. I wouldn't know that side of it as I just adopted my kits out two days ago (I'm sure I will feel your pain soon though) I try to get my apps done with in three or four days of adopting the kits though. Maybe we could not only do a requirement for ourselves but other too?

Something like...."I will birth these kits in 10-14 days, I need all of the apps made by January 10th or you will forfeit your kit and I will adopt it out to someone else." ? Not sure how to take care of that problem. Maybe Mid will have a suggestion on something that is fair, but you are correct, we must be fair on BOTH sides. Personally though, I think if the rper of the kits was like (HEY YALL, THESE KITS WILL BE BORN IN 5-6 DAYS) Then people would feel more inclined to actually make the apps for the kits. I know personally I have stopped rushing to make apps the very day after I adopt them....because I just figure they'll never be born. ;__;

[ⓐⓜⓑⓔⓡ]

Well, I'm far too lazy to write out my own argument...

... but I actually strongly agree with Cami's. I'm not currently waiting on any litters, but I remember a couple of months back, I was waiting on someone- not pointing any fingers here- for at least a month, likely more, to have their cat give birth. I remember that it was very frustrating, and that being made to wait so long was actually very unfair to everyone who adopted a kitten in that litter. I hear about this happening a lot, and I agree that there should be a flexible yet still functional time limit to how long you can have others waiting on a litter.

[Sand]

Yep, but some time it's the fault of the people who adopt the kits to. I don't know how many times I've had to wait for someone to make the kit they adopted before continuing with a thread that I started.

[ⓐⓜⓑⓔⓡ]

That's true, sometimes people are too lazy to create apps themselves. .__.

[Midnight]

I would make a time limit of sorts for cats to give birth by, but there are a few issues with that, and applications aren't one of them.

Birth threads are not required. If the RPer of the mother just wants to go ahead and PM everyone that their kits have been born and then RP it like that, it's perfectly acceptable. This isn't one of the issues, but I thought I'd throw it out there.

The issue with the possibility of having the cats just miscarry the kittens is that some people will have already made the application and then it would be wasted because their kit would be dead.

Personally, I don't wait for applications. I don't care about when the adopters make the kittens. Hell, I don't care if they never get to making the kits' apps. Once the litter is made and adopted out, unless there is a specific plot and all involved are aware and agreeing to it, I stop paying attention. After the kittens have been adopted, what happens to them is up to the RPer. If the RPer wants to make the application a month after the kittens have been born, well, no big deal to me.

If I take too long to make a birthing thread, it's for one of the following reasons:

1. I'm lazy.

2. I've completely forgotten about the queen in question.

3. I'm too busy.

4. I have some plot or whatever that is holding the queen back, like with.. uhh... that one.. I don't remember her name, but I had a queen a while back who I was waiting to give birth on because I was waiting on the other RPer. We had a little plot going on, so the birth had to be a bit.. postponed.


Moving on, I like the idea of having people set up their own limits or "I'll get the birth thread up in a week", but if they're anything like me, they'll forget all about it anyway. Besides, I really can't enforce that when (some, not all) people scarcely follow some of the rules set up as it is.

While I completely understand your view (I've had to wait a while for kits to be born in the past as well, so I get the pain), I really don't know of any options that are super plausible.

People can give themselves dates all they want, you just have to hope that they follow those.

[CaℳI]

Well....that's fair enough Mid. ^^ I can't really ask for anything more then you gave me. At least you looked at my ideas and considered them. That's more then most admins on some others sites I've been on would have done. Lol

And at least I got some information I wasn't aware about. I didn't actually know birth threads aren't required. Lol. Maybe I just care too much? You're right that I probably honestly shouldn't give a darn about what happens to the kits after their born since that's up for other rpers, and at least after my kits are born if I decide the mother was too slow at birthing them...I don't really have to rp with the mother and father cats. xD I just kinda...take my kit and go.

It was helpful to see that at least people know where I'm coming from and how I feel. C: Thanks again guys. ^^

[Midnight]

Jan 7, 2014 7:51:26 GMT -5 CaℳI said:

Well....that's fair enough Mid. ^^ I can't really ask for anything more then you gave me. At least you looked at my ideas and considered them. That's more then most admins on some others sites I've been on would have done. Lol

And at least I got some information I wasn't aware about. I didn't actually know birth threads aren't required. Lol. Maybe I just care too much? You're right that I probably honestly shouldn't give a darn about what happens to the kits after their born since that's up for other rpers, and at least after my kits are born if I decide the mother was too slow at birthing them...I don't really have to rp with the mother and father cats. xD I just kinda...take my kit and go.

It was helpful to see that at least people know where I'm coming from and how I feel. C: Thanks again guys. ^^

I completely understand caring, too, though; I do sometimes hope that the RPers of the kittens do a lot with them, but that's usually why I take a kit from my cats' ltiters: I want to make sure that there will be at lest one cat to continue the legacy. ^^